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+From: Juha Hakala <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
+To: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+CC: Ere Maijala <ere.maijala@helsinki.fi>,
+ Katri Kananen <katri.kananen@helsinki.fi>,
+ Kristiina Hormia <kristiina.hormia@helsinki.fi>,
+ Ari Rouvari <ari.rouvari@helsinki.fi>,
+ "Adam Horvath (adam@oszk.hu)" <adam@oszk.hu>,
+ Esa Kurki <esa.kurki@helsinki.fi>,
+ Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.com>
+Subject: IRSpy testing in Helsinki
+Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:19:29 +0300
+
+Hello Mike,
+
+After some internal discussions we have decided to proceed with the
+IRSpy testing in the following manner:
+
+1. Initial testing, to be carried out by Ms. Katri Kananen, will
+concentrate on end user point of view. Katri is very experienced copy
+cataloger who is familiar with both Z39.50 and BookWhere. Comparing the
+target data in BookWhere (which has been manually produced) and in IRSpy
+will provide some views on how reliable automatically generated data is.
+Since IRSpy contains more targets than BookWhere (2600 to about 2000)
+Katri will also be able to add new targets to BookWhere and see how they
+"work".
+
+2. After Katri has finished her part of the work in late May / early
+June we'll proceed to technical testing, to be carried out by Ere
+Maijala whose background is in programming. Since Ere's schedule is
+tight (his main responsibility is our MetaLib/SFX portal) I am not sure
+how much time he'll be able to spend on testing, but we'll see what
+happens. Implementation of the new MetaLib version keeps Ere and his
+colleagues busy for the time being. But we wish to complete testing
+before summer vacations; I hope this is OK for ID.
+
+It is our belief that IRSpy will help us in two areas, BookWhere-based
+copy cataloguing and MetaLib portal maintenance. The testers represent
+these two areas, and the outcome of the test will already provide some
+insights of how useful the tool will be, for the national library and
+for the (Finnish) library network in general.
+
+If Adam and his colleagues are able to test this version of the
+application (like they have tested earlier releases), we would like to
+receive a report of the results too, in order to avoid re-inventing the
+same wheels.
+
+I have taken a short look at IRSpy. One feature I missed was geographic
+location (country) of the server, which in many cases could be easily
+derived from the host name. Browsing an alphabetical list for Finnish
+servers was rather frustrating, and a copy cataloguer would prefer a
+country-based representation of servers. Moreover, there are quite a lot
+of servers with 0 % reliability, eventually some kind of weeding
+process should be implemented for the servers which obviously are no
+longer functional at all or have moved to some other place. Presentation
+of the supported attributes is as compact as it gets; lay users might
+prefer a more verbose option should one be available.
+
+But in spite of these critical comments, I am quite happy with what I've
+seen. The number of target systems is already quite impressive and is
+likely to grow when IRSpy goes live. The system works fast enough, and I
+like the looks of it.
+
+Best regards,
+
+Juha
+
+--
+
+--
+
+ Juha Hakala
+ Director, Information Technology
+
+ The National Library of Finland
+ P.O.Box 15 (Unioninkatu 36, room 503), FIN-00014 Helsinki University
+ Email juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, tel +358 50 382 7678
+
+
+
+
+
+From mike@miketaylor.org.uk Wed Apr 18 12:42:50 2007
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+From: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+To: Juha Hakala <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
+Cc: Ere Maijala <ere.maijala@helsinki.fi>,
+ Katri Kananen <katri.kananen@helsinki.fi>,
+ Kristiina Hormia <kristiina.hormia@helsinki.fi>,
+ Ari Rouvari <ari.rouvari@helsinki.fi>,
+ "Adam Horvath (adam@oszk.hu)" <adam@oszk.hu>,
+ Esa Kurki <esa.kurki@helsinki.fi>,
+ Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.com>, perhans@indexdata.dk
+Subject: IRSpy testing in Helsinki
+Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:42:50 +0100
+
+Juha Hakala writes:
+ > Hello Mike,
+ >
+ > After some internal discussions we have decided to proceed with the
+ > IRSpy testing in the following manner:
+ >
+ > 1. Initial testing, to be carried out by Ms. Katri Kananen, will
+ > concentrate on end user point of view. Katri is very experienced
+ > copy cataloger who is familiar with both Z39.50 and
+ > BookWhere. Comparing the target data in BookWhere (which has been
+ > manually produced) and in IRSpy will provide some views on how
+ > reliable automatically generated data is. Since IRSpy contains
+ > more targets than BookWhere (2600 to about 2000) Katri will also be
+ > able to add new targets to BookWhere and see how they "work".
+
+OK, sounds good.
+
+ > 2. After Katri has finished her part of the work in late May /
+ > early June we'll proceed to technical testing, to be carried out by
+ > Ere Maijala whose background is in programming.
+
+This seems an awfully long way into the future.
+
+ > Since Ere's schedule is tight (his main responsibility is our
+ > MetaLib/SFX portal) I am not sure how much time he'll be able to
+ > spend on testing, but we'll see what happens. Implementation of the
+ > new MetaLib version keeps Ere and his colleagues busy for the time
+ > being. But we wish to complete testing before summer vacations; I
+ > hope this is OK for ID.
+
+I'll leave Per or Seb to comment on that.
+
+ > It is our belief that IRSpy will help us in two areas,
+ > BookWhere-based copy cataloguing and MetaLib portal
+ > maintenance. The testers represent these two areas, and the outcome
+ > of the test will already provide some insights of how useful the
+ > tool will be, for the national library and for the (Finnish)
+ > library network in general.
+ >
+ > If Adam and his colleagues are able to test this version of the
+ > application (like they have tested earlier releases), we would like
+ > to receive a report of the results too, in order to avoid
+ > re-inventing the same wheels.
+
+Certainly. May we once more invite you to register all bugs, change
+requests, etc. in the Bugzilla area? That way everyone can see
+what everyone else has found and we can be sure that nothing gets forgotten.
+ http://bugzilla.indexdata.dk/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=IR-Spy&content=
+
+ > I have taken a short look at IRSpy. One feature I missed was
+ > geographic location (country) of the server, which in many cases
+ > could be easily derived from the host name.
+
+The problem is that "in many cases" is not really good enough. You'll
+have seen that there is indeed a Country field in the records, but we
+feel that it is better to edit these by hand than to have a computer
+make guesses. However --
+
+ > Browsing an alphabetical list for Finnish servers was rather
+ > frustrating, and a copy cataloguer would prefer a country-based
+ > representation of servers.
+
+Well, that's what searching is for! :-)
+
+If you want to narrow by domain-name, try this. Go to:
+ http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html
+In the "Host" field, enter
+ *.fi
+Set the "Sort by" dropdown to
+ Title
+And press the Search button.
+
+At the moment, there seems to be only one matching entry (which makes
+the sorting criterion a bit irrelevant :-) This was a surprise to me,
+but does seem to be correct.
+
+ > Moreover, there are quite a lot of servers with 0 % reliability,
+ > eventually some kind of weeding process should be implemented for
+ > the servers which obviously are no longer functional at all or have
+ > moved to some other place.
+
+Yes. Someone will have to come up with heuristics -- I suppose
+something simple such as "no successful connections in six months"
+would be about right.
+
+ > Presentation of the supported attributes is as compact as it gets;
+ > lay users might prefer a more verbose option should one be
+ > available.
+
+You mean this?
+
+ Bib-1 Use attributes 36 access points: 1-9, 12-13, 16-19,
+ 21, 25, 28, 33-44, 47, 1003, 1007,
+ 1016, 1035-1036
+
+You're thinking that users might prefer to see "33, 34, 35, 36, 37,
+38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44" rather than "33-44"? I have to say that
+does not seem likely to me.
+
+ > But in spite of these critical comments, I am quite happy with what
+ > I've seen. The number of target systems is already quite impressive
+ > and is likely to grow when IRSpy goes live. The system works fast
+ > enough, and I like the looks of it.
+
+Thanks, that's good to hear!
+
+ _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________
+/o ) \/ Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com> http://www.miketaylor.org.uk
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+ slurry" -- Terry Pratchett, "Mort"
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+From: Juha Hakala <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
+To: "Per M. Hansen" <perhans@indexdata.dk>
+CC: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>, Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.com>,
+ Kristiina Hormia <kristiina.hormia@helsinki.fi>,
+ Dorrit Gustafsson <Dorrit.Gustafsson@helsinki.fi>
+Subject: Re: IRSpy testing in Helsinki
+Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:25:09 +0300
+
+Dear Per,
+
+We did not want to spend much time on testing the application until it=20
+was declared to be ready by Index Data. Any testing done on earlier=20
+versions must be repeated with the final release, and the time spent on=20
+testing would increase accordingly.
+
+We assumed that testing would take place late 2006, and we had a=20
+seasoned programmer who would have been able to take care of the task.=20
+He left us in the end of December as planned, so at the moment we do not=20
+have a technical expert available for testing on short notice. Please=20
+keep in mind that we could not prepare ourselves properly for testing in=20
+2007 also because we did not know exactly when ID will be able to=20
+complete the IRSpy development. Once Mike's note about IRSpy being=20
+available for testing arrived, following discussions with other=20
+directors and experts within the library, I came up with the plan sent=20
+to Mike Taylor earlier today.
+
+Paying the entire invoice before the testing is completed is not what we=20
+normally do, even with good partners such as ID. Your proposal will be=20
+discussed in the library board, but I must admit that my gut feeling is=20
+that the answer will be negative. From our point of view it is not=20
+entirely our fault that we can not complete the testing fast. I do not=20
+remember if our contract says anything about how fast we are assumed to=20
+carry out the testing; if it does, then we have to reconsider the=20
+testing proposal I have drafted.
+
+I'm sorry for being a bit negative this time. But we have bought a lot=20
+of software from various vendors, and there are some principles we=20
+always stick to. What you propose would be against some of them.
+
+Best regards,
+
+Juha Hakala
+
+
+Per M. Hansen wrote:
+> Dear Juha,
+>
+> Thank you for your mail.
+>
+> This project has been in progress for quite some time now, and this is=20
+> unfortunately entirely our fault and we are very sorry about that. The=20
+> long development time has however also given you a very long time to=20
+> conduct you testing of the software. On this basis I don't understand=20
+> why it has to take so long time before you can perform the final=20
+> testing of the system. I would therefor like to be able to invoice you=20
+> now, with the clause that we of course will fix any problem in the=20
+> software that you may find, that is included in the requirements.=20
+> Would that work for you?
+>
+> Regards,
+>
+> Per M=F8rkegaard Hansen, COO
+> Index Data
+>> Hello Mike,
+>>
+>> After some internal discussions we have decided to proceed with the=20
+>> IRSpy testing in the following manner:
+>>
+>> 1. Initial testing, to be carried out by Ms. Katri Kananen, will=20
+>> concentrate on end user point of view. Katri is very experienced copy=20
+>> cataloger who is familiar with both Z39.50 and BookWhere. Comparing=20
+>> the target data in BookWhere (which has been manually produced) and=20
+>> in IRSpy will provide some views on how reliable automatically=20
+>> generated data is. Since IRSpy contains more targets than BookWhere=20
+>> (2600 to about 2000) Katri will also be able to add new targets to=20
+>> BookWhere and see how they "work".
+>>
+>> 2. After Katri has finished her part of the work in late May / early=20
+>> June we'll proceed to technical testing, to be carried out by Ere=20
+>> Maijala whose background is in programming. Since Ere's schedule is=20
+>> tight (his main responsibility is our MetaLib/SFX portal) I am not=20
+>> sure how much time he'll be able to spend on testing, but we'll see=20
+>> what happens. Implementation of the new MetaLib version keeps Ere and=20
+>> his colleagues busy for the time being. But we wish to complete=20
+>> testing before summer vacations; I hope this is OK for ID.
+>>
+>> It is our belief that IRSpy will help us in two areas,=20
+>> BookWhere-based copy cataloguing and MetaLib portal maintenance. The=20
+>> testers represent these two areas, and the outcome of the test will=20
+>> already provide some insights of how useful the tool will be, for the=20
+>> national library and for the (Finnish) library network in general.
+>>
+>> If Adam and his colleagues are able to test this version of the=20
+>> application (like they have tested earlier releases), we would like=20
+>> to receive a report of the results too, in order to avoid=20
+>> re-inventing the same wheels.
+>>
+>> I have taken a short look at IRSpy. One feature I missed was=20
+>> geographic location (country) of the server, which in many cases=20
+>> could be easily derived from the host name. Browsing an alphabetical=20
+>> list for Finnish servers was rather frustrating, and a copy=20
+>> cataloguer would prefer a country-based representation of servers.=20
+>> Moreover, there are quite a lot of servers with 0 % reliability,=20
+>> eventually some kind of weeding process should be implemented for=20
+>> the servers which obviously are no longer functional at all or have=20
+>> moved to some other place. Presentation of the supported attributes=20
+>> is as compact as it gets; lay users might prefer a more verbose=20
+>> option should one be available.
+>>
+>> But in spite of these critical comments, I am quite happy with what=20
+>> I've seen. The number of target systems is already quite impressive=20
+>> and is likely to grow when IRSpy goes live. The system works fast=20
+>> enough, and I like the looks of it.
+>>
+>> Best regards,
+>>
+>> Juha
+>>
+>> --=20
+>>
+>> --=20
+>>
+>> Juha Hakala
+>> Director, Information Technology
+>>
+>> The National Library of Finland P.O.Box 15 (Unioninkatu 36, room=20
+>> 503), FIN-00014 Helsinki University
+>> Email juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, tel +358 50 382 7678 =20
+>
+
+
+--=20
+
+--
+
+ Juha Hakala
+ Director, Information Technology
+
+ The National Library of Finland=20
+ P.O.Box 15 (Unioninkatu 36, room 503), FIN-00014 Helsinki University
+ Email juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, tel +358 50 382 7678
+=20
+
+
+
+
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+CC: Ere Maijala <ere.maijala@helsinki.fi>,
+ Katri Kananen <katri.kananen@helsinki.fi>,
+ Kristiina Hormia <kristiina.hormia@helsinki.fi>,
+ Ari Rouvari <ari.rouvari@helsinki.fi>,
+ "Adam Horvath (adam@oszk.hu)" <adam@oszk.hu>,
+ Esa Kurki <esa.kurki@helsinki.fi>,
+ Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.com>, perhans@indexdata.dk
+Subject: Re: IRSpy testing in Helsinki
+Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:21:01 +0300
+
+Hello Mike,
+
+See comments below. There are not many of them.
+
+As regards the timing of the test over here: I am sorry that we can not
+start the technical testing any faster. Late last year - when IRSpy was
+supposed to be available for testing - we did have a qualified person,
+but he is no longer with us.
+
+Mike Taylor wrote:
+>
+> If you want to narrow by domain-name, try this. Go to:
+> http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html
+> In the "Host" field, enter
+> *.fi
+> Set the "Sort by" dropdown to
+> Title
+> And press the Search button.
+>
+> At the moment, there seems to be only one matching entry (which makes
+> the sorting criterion a bit irrelevant :-) This was a surprise to me,
+> but does seem to be correct.
+>
+I was not able to find a single Finnish server via browsing; my patience
+ran out first. Many Finnish sites that are definitely free (like most
+OPACs in university libraries) are missing from the IRSpy server list,
+although it is probably the most complete one in existence. This shows
+only that there are a lot more Z & SRU servers out there than we know,
+and the fact that the libraries have not been able to share this
+information efficiently between themselves keeps many useful services
+hidden from users such as copy cataloguers or patrons with specific
+regional interests. Patrons with specific topical interests would of
+course need collection descriptions, but that is a different story.
+> > Presentation of the supported attributes is as compact as it gets;
+> > lay users might prefer a more verbose option should one be
+> > available.
+>
+> You mean this?
+>
+> Bib-1 Use attributes 36 access points: 1-9, 12-13, 16-19,
+> 21, 25, 28, 33-44, 47, 1003, 1007,
+> 1016, 1035-1036
+>
+> You're thinking that users might prefer to see "33, 34, 35, 36, 37,
+> 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44" rather than "33-44"? I have to say that
+> does not seem likely to me.
+>
+That would not seem likely to me either :-).
+
+Instead of verbose I should have said human readable (sorry, I am not a
+native English speaker and sometimes pick a wrong term or make a mess of
+the grammar). Especially if you don't have Z39.50 readily at hand it may
+be a bit difficult to find out what f.ex. Use attribute 7 means. Most
+human users (especially those who are not system analysts but e.g.
+cataloguers) might well prefer a display stating "ISBN" instead of "7",
+especially if they only want to see if ISBN searching is possible. Of
+course it is possible to check from Bib-1 the meaning of the codes, and
+eventually one memorizes quite a few of them, but why should we make it
+necessary to the users to take that extra step?
+
+Best regards,
+
+Juha
+> > But in spite of these critical comments, I am quite happy with what
+> > I've seen. The number of target systems is already quite impressive
+> > and is likely to grow when IRSpy goes live. The system works fast
+> > enough, and I like the looks of it.
+>
+> Thanks, that's good to hear!
+>
+> _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________
+> /o ) \/ Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com> http://www.miketaylor.org.uk
+> )_v__/\ "When a man is tired of Ankh Morpork, he is tired of ankle-deep
+> slurry" -- Terry Pratchett, "Mort"
+>
+>
+
+
+--
+
+--
+
+ Juha Hakala
+ Director, Information Technology
+
+ The National Library of Finland
+ P.O.Box 15 (Unioninkatu 36, room 503), FIN-00014 Helsinki University
+ Email juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, tel +358 50 382 7678
+
+
+
+
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+From: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+To: Juha Hakala <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
+Cc: Ere Maijala <ere.maijala@helsinki.fi>,
+ Katri Kananen <katri.kananen@helsinki.fi>,
+ Kristiina Hormia <kristiina.hormia@helsinki.fi>,
+ Ari Rouvari <ari.rouvari@helsinki.fi>,
+ "Adam Horvath (adam@oszk.hu)" <adam@oszk.hu>,
+ Esa Kurki <esa.kurki@helsinki.fi>,
+ Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.com>,
+ perhans@indexdata.dk
+Subject: Re: IRSpy testing in Helsinki
+Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:12:20 +0100
+
+Juha Hakala writes:
+ > As regards the timing of the test over here: I am sorry that we can
+ > not start the technical testing any faster. Late last year - when
+ > IRSpy was supposed to be available for testing - we did have a
+ > qualified person, but he is no longer with us.
+
+I do take your point.
+
+ > > If you want to narrow by domain-name, try this. Go to:
+ > > http://irspy.indexdata.com/find.html
+ > > In the "Host" field, enter
+ > > *.fi
+ > > Set the "Sort by" dropdown to
+ > > Title
+ > > And press the Search button.
+ > >
+ > > At the moment, there seems to be only one matching entry (which
+ > > makes the sorting criterion a bit irrelevant :-) This was a
+ > > surprise to me, but does seem to be correct.
+ >
+ > I was not able to find a single Finnish server via browsing; my
+ > patience ran out first.
+
+Probably because there is only the one! But of course you are very
+welcome to add more.
+
+ > Many Finnish sites that are definitely free (like most OPACs in
+ > university libraries) are missing from the IRSpy server list,
+ > although it is probably the most complete one in existence. This
+ > shows only that there are a lot more Z & SRU servers out there than
+ > we know, and the fact that the libraries have not been able to
+ > share this information efficiently between themselves keeps many
+ > useful services hidden from users such as copy cataloguers or
+ > patrons with specific regional interests.
+
+All true. Please help to fix this problem! :-)
+
+ > > > Presentation of the supported attributes is as compact as it gets;
+ > > > lay users might prefer a more verbose option should one be
+ > > > available.
+ > >
+ > > You mean this?
+ > >
+ > > Bib-1 Use attributes 36 access points: 1-9, 12-13, 16-19,
+ > > 21, 25, 28, 33-44, 47, 1003, 1007,
+ > > 1016, 1035-1036
+ > >
+ > > You're thinking that users might prefer to see "33, 34, 35, 36, 37,
+ > > 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44" rather than "33-44"? I have to say that
+ > > does not seem likely to me.
+ >
+ > That would not seem likely to me either :-).
+
+:-)
+
+ > Instead of verbose I should have said human readable (sorry, I am
+ > not a native English speaker and sometimes pick a wrong term or
+ > make a mess of the grammar).
+
+You _are_ joking here, right? Like most Scandivians, your written
+English is _far_ better than that of most native Brits.
+
+ > Especially if you don't have Z39.50 readily at hand it may be a bit
+ > difficult to find out what f.ex. Use attribute 7 means. Most human
+ > users (especially those who are not system analysts but e.g.
+ > cataloguers) might well prefer a display stating "ISBN" instead of
+ > "7", especially if they only want to see if ISBN searching is
+ > possible. Of course it is possible to check from Bib-1 the meaning
+ > of the codes, and eventually one memorizes quite a few of them, but
+ > why should we make it necessary to the users to take that extra
+ > step?
+
+Gotcha. I agree that it would be a nice enhancement to be able to see
+the codes interpreted.
+
+Would you please add this feature request using Bugzilla? Not only
+will that make sure it gets done, but it will also reassure us at ID
+that you are comfortable using the system. Thanks.
+
+ _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________
+/o ) \/ Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com> http://www.miketaylor.org.uk
+)_v__/\ "Don't ask what you can do for your country. Ask what you can
+ do for your mother" -- Joe Lieberman.
+
+
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