From ade45f165e997994a570f9e3b46560bbcc1cbf09 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Mike Taylor Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:58:26 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Append --- archive/mbox | 129 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 129 insertions(+) diff --git a/archive/mbox b/archive/mbox index d6011b5..5fc9e02 100644 --- a/archive/mbox +++ b/archive/mbox @@ -1307,3 +1307,132 @@ Juha Hakala ------- end of forwarded message ------- +From mike@miketaylor.org.uk Thu Jul 5 12:19:58 2007 +X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] + ["4172" "Thursday" "5" "July" "2007" "12:19:58" "+0100" "Mike Taylor" "mike@indexdata.com" nil "94" "IRSpy acceptance" "^From:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] + nil) +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: mike +Delivered-To: mike@miketaylor.org.uk +Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id DF6BD4D6420C; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:19:58 +0100 (BST) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Message-ID: <18060.54238.847561.812058@localhost.localdomain> +In-Reply-To: <468C8B58.4020800@helsinki.fi> +References: <468C8B58.4020800@helsinki.fi> +X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 +From: Mike Taylor +To: Juha Hakala +Cc: "Per M. Hansen" , + sondberg@indexdata.com, + Sebastian Hammer , + Ere Maijala , + Kristiina Hormia , + Annu Jauhiainen , + Pertti Rekala , + =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tuula_Haapam?= + =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4ki?= , + Kai Ekholm , + Adam Dickmeiss , + Eeva Murtomaa , + David Dorman +Subject: IRSpy acceptance +Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:19:58 +0100 + +Juha Hakala writes: + > Hello all, + > + > The National Library of Finland accepts the IRSpy application, + > following the successful beta testing of the software in the + > library. + +Thanks, Juha, that's great news. + + > Our billing address is + > + > Helsingin yliopisto + > Kansalliskirjasto / Kirjastoverkkopalvelut + > PL 7138 + > 01051 LASKUT + > + > Please mention responsibility area code (in Finnish, + > vastuualuekoodi) 98123. + +Per will deal with this. + + > I-D is most welcome to announce availability of this application to + > the general public. Please mention in the announcement that the + > development effort was a cooperative project between I-D and the + > national library of Finland. Since I will start vacation next + > Monday I will not be able to review the text unless it is sent + > tomorrow. + +Thanks, we'll make an announcement. + + > IRSpy is the first implementation of the NISO draft standard + > Z39.92-200X. As such it makes it possible to complete the + > standardization process. My intention as the chair of the NISO + > working group developing the standard is to publish the second + > draft of it in August. As far as I know, development of IRSpy did + > not reveal any problems in the present draft, so the second one can + > be published unaltered. + +Ah, that's very good news. The SRU people, at the their recent +meeting, didn't know the status of Z39.92, and were worried that it +might be dead. See the notes at: + http://www.loc.gov:8081/standards/sru/june2007meeting-report.html#zeerex +It might be good to get an announcement out to counter that +perception. + + > We will discuss with Ex Libris Group and WebClarity Software + > Inc. about incorporation of IRSpy into, respectively, MetaLib and + > BookWhere. + +Exciting! + + > The national library has no intention to host IRSpy ourselves in + > the short run, and we will never try to run a global site, mainly + > due to considerable systems expert time that would require. + > Moreover, the present IRSpy database which is apparently inherited + > from your previous ZSpy software) is out of date - many databases + > no longer are available in the same address where they were located + > a few years back - and would require a thorough manual revision. + > + > A decentralized network of national/regional IRSpy installations, + > each concentrating on its geographical area, is the only truly + > feasible model for hosting the tool (this does not rule out the + > possibility of harvesting the Z39.92 data into a physical union + > catalogue). + +Well, whatever you can get funding for :-) + + > One issue we will most likely discuss in the Autumn here in the + > national library is whether maintenance of a national database of + > Information retrieval service descriptions using Z39.92 (and IRSpy) + > will fit within the national bibliographic responsibilities of the + > national library. As far as I am concerned, it is more important to + > describe how for instance the national bibliography database can be + > used for search and retrieval (and to share this data with other + > libraries) than catalogue manually some obscure grey Web + > literature. Google can do the latter more efficiently than we, but + > Google can not and will not be able to deal efficiently with (a + > large number of) databases. Due to Z39.92 and IRSpy the national + > libraries will have an option to discuss how to deal with databases + > within the national bibliographic context. Without a standard to + > steer creation and exchange of IR service descriptions and an + > efficient tool for creating those descriptions trying to extend + > national bibliographic activities to "deep Web" would not have been + > possible. With the web archives were are already dealing with the + > uppermost level of the Web, and with Z39.92 and IRSpy we have a + > chance to gain access to the rest of it. + +Agreed. + + _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________ +/o ) \/ Mike Taylor http://www.miketaylor.org.uk +)_v__/\ "I can't figure out the relationship between Nancy, the stuffed + owl in the garage, and the plates" -- Matt Wedel, in a context + that made some kind of sense at the time. + -- 1.7.10.4